IS JESUS SEATED NOW ON DAVID’S THRONE?

 (Luke 1:32)

 

  By Mario A Olcese

 

 

DOES THIS SURPRISE YOU?     JESUS IS NOT  

SEATED IN DAVID’S THRONE!

HE WILL NOT BE UNTIL HIS SECOND COMING!

 

What does the book of Revelation have to tell us? 

   

 

INTRODUCTION 

 

Amillennialists and Full Preterists maintain that our Lord Jesus, the Messiah, is now seated on David’s throne in heaven.  They allege that the Messiah returned to heaven to govern his people from his personal throne (“the throne of David”), thus fulfilling Luke's prophecy in (Luke 1:32-33 NKJV)  "He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. {33} "And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end."

However, what these amillennialists ignore is that Jesus the Messiah didn't go to heaven to sit on his own throne but on his Father's throne!.  These teachers ignore that The Messiah will have (at his return) his throne AND HIS GOVERNMENT on the earth (2 Sam.23:1, VV.1960, Jer. 3:17), and that His Father now has His own throne in heaven where He is seated with Christ at His right hand. Notice (Heb 8:1 NKJV) "Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,  Therefore, it is important to clarify this matter that has been ignored by most Bible students. We are going to expose the error of the teaching that says that the Messiah is now reigning on his throne (“that of David”) in heaven, either from the year 33 AD or from the 1914 AD.  

 

THE TESTIMONY OF JOHN AND THE BOOK OF REVELATION

 

Let us examine what JOHN says in Revelation on the existent thrones in heaven, and then we will examine all the verses where the word “Throne” or “thrones” appear. In this way we will be able to discover if a personal throne exists for the Father and another personal throne for the Son--- and in passing for the Holy Spirit! The texts where the words “throne” and “thrones” appear in the book of Revelation are the following ones: Rev. 4:2,4,5,6,9,10; 5:1,6,7,11,13; 6:16, 7:8,10,11, 15,17; 8:3;11:16; 12:5; 14:3,5; 16:10,17; 19:4,5; 20:4,11; 21:5; 22:3. 

 

REVELATION 4: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 10: 

 

Revelation 4 

2 Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne was standing in heaven, and One sitting on the throne.

 3 And He who was sitting was like a jasper stone and a sardius in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, like an emerald in appearance.

 4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones; and upon the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in (white garments, and golden crowns on their heads.

5 Out from the throne come flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God;

 6 and before the throne there was something like a sea of glass, like crystal; and in the center and around the throne, four living creatures full of eyes in front and behind.

 9 And when the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, to Him who lives forever and ever,

 10 the twenty-four elders will fall down before Him who sits on the throne, and will worship Him who lives forever and ever, and will cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

COMMENT: 

 

In these verses ia single Divine Person t is spoken of Who is seated on a throne and surrounded by 24 thrones that are for the 24 elders.  Notice that these verses don't says that the 24 thrones are surrounding two thrones, and much less, three. 

 

REVELATION  5: 1, 6, 7, 11, 13: 

 

Revelation 5:  

 

1 I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a book written inside and on the back, sealed up with seven seals. 

 6 And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth.

 7 And He came and took the book out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne.

11 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands,

 13 And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever."

COMMENT: 

 

If we examine carefully these verses of the chapter 5 of Revelation where the word “throne” appears, we won't find evidence that the Messiah is seated on his own individual or personal throne.  This is clear. 

 

REVELATION 6:16 

 

Revelation 6 

 

16 and they said to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb” 

 

COMMENT: 

 

In chapter 6 of Revelation we do not find evidence that Jesus the Messiah is seated on his own throne in heaven. 

 

REVELATION 7: 9, 10, 11, 15, 17 

 

Revelation 7 

 

9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;

 10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb."

 11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God,

 15 "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.

 17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes."

 COMMENT: 

 

In chapter 7 of Revelation we have examined all the verses where the word “throne” appears and we observe that none say anything about the Son being seated on His own throne. In verse 10, for example, we discover that the one who is seated on the throne is the Father and not the Son. 

 

REVELATION  8:3 

 

Revelation 8: 

 3 Another angel came and stood at the altar, holding a golden censer; and much incense was given to him, so that he might add it to the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar which was before the throne.

 COMMENT 

 

Again, in chapter eight of Revelation it’s impossible to find that The Messiah is seated on his personal or singular throne. 

 

REVELATION 11:16 

 

Revelation 11 

 

16And the twenty-four elders, who sit on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God  

 

COMMENT 

 

Neither  can we find in chapter eleven of Revelation that Jesus the Messiah is seated on his personal or singular throne.  It is true that it speaks of thrones but these are for the 24 elders. 

 

REVELATION 12:5 

 

Revelation 12 

 

5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. 

 

COMMENT 

 

In chapter twelve of Revelation, the word ‘throne' appear once in the verse 5. nevertheless, this throne is not the Son's throne but Yahweh's, the Father. 

 

REVELATION 14:3

 

Revelaltion 14 

3And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth.

COMMENT 

 It is clear that again in chapter 14 of Revelation that a personal throne of the Son of God is not mentioned.  Verse 5 says clearly that the throne is of God, the Father. 

 

REVELATION 16:17 

 

Revelation 16 

 

17 The seventh angel poured his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, from the throne, saying, "It is done!" 

 

COMMENT 

 

Neither in chapter 16 is there a reference to a throne for the Son of God.  It is simply spoken of the throne that is in the temple of heaven. 

 

REVELATION 19:4,5 

 

Revelation 19 

 

4 And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who is seated on the throne, saying, "Amen. Hallelujah!" 5 And from the throne came a voice crying, "Praise our God, all you his servants, you who fear him, small and great."

 

COMMENT 

 

In chapter 19 of Revelation, there is no reference to a throne that belongs to the Son of Elohim, but alone to Elohim. This is very important because some people don't distinguish this singular detail. 

 

REVELATION 20: 4,11 

 

Revelation 20 

4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom judgment was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who sat upon it; from his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them.

 

COMMENT 

 

This is a vision of the coming era when Yahshúa the Messiah inaugurates his millennial Kingdom in the earth.  The thrones that are seen are the thrones of the martyrs that will reign with The Messiah in the earth.  In Psalms 122:3-5 it is revealed that the thrones of the trial will be in Jerusalem and not in the sky.   (Psa 122:3-5 NKJV) Jerusalem is built As a city that is compact together, {4} Where the tribes go up, The tribes of the LORD, To the Testimony of Israel, To give thanks to the name of the LORD. {5} For thrones are set there for judgment, The thrones of the house of David.
 

REVELATION 21:5 

 

Revelation  21 

 

5 And he who sat upon the throne said, "Behold, I make all things new." Also he said, "Write this, for these words are trustworthy and true." 

 

COMMENT 

 

Neither this verse (nor the context) tells us that this throne belongs to the Son of Elohim, but rather of the Father. 

 

REVELATION 22:1, 3 

 

Revelation 22 

 

1 Then he showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 3 There shall no more be anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and his servants shall worship him.

 

COMMENT 

 

Chapter 22 refers basically to the era of the Kingdom in the new earth, and the only verse that speaks to us of the Father's throne is the 3rd. But anything in the context indicates us that this vision is one heaven, but of the new earth, when God and its Son dwells with the men (21:1-3).  

FINAL COMMENTS:

 

JESUS THE MESSIAH IS NOW SEATED IN HIS FATHER’S THRONE   

 

We have demonstrated that the Lord Jesus the Messiah is not seated on HIS throne of authority in heaven. It is crucial to mention that the same Lord Jesus makes the following statement: “He who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I myself conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.”. Take note that the Messiah is seated on His Father's throne--- Not on his! This truth is overlooked by Bible students. Most believe that our Lord is now seated on his own throne (that of David, his father in the flesh) in heaven, but this doesn't have a basis in Scripture. It is impossible that the Messiah is seated simultaneously on his throne and on His Father's throne.  But there will be a throne for the Father and another for the Son when the New Jerusalem descends to the earth and God and His Messiah will be among men. Therefore, Jesus has still not been seated on his own throne, because that hour has not arrived, neither the hour of the saints. But it will arrive the day that Jesus and the saints occupy their thrones on the earth (Daniel 7.13,14,18,22,27).  

 

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